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Crate expectations? Join the debate...

By Editor,


Youdecide2007's first big national story  (the one we're calling "crate-gate") came from an interview with Peter Lindsay

Lindsay said mortgage brokers had told him that the housing crisis was in part down to the "financial iliteracy" of young people. Lindsay also contrasted the borrowing habits of today's couples with his own younger days, where he had "sat on milk crates" until he could afford furniture. Labor says that its another sign that the government is out of touch on mortgage stress. 

What do you think? Is mortgage stress our fault for borrowing too much? Or are young people really being priced out of the market? Is it down to financial institutions extending big loans to those who can ill afford them, or are borrowers to blame? 

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Spending

By: Doug (Registered ) on 20-09-2007 00:45

It is a combination of both High prices and high expectations. 
 
We bought our home in the period of 17% interest rates and it was more affordable then than it is for our kids to buy a home now. 
 
I also know of young people taking house mortgages to buy new cars and household appliances so effectively they will be paying off short term items for 20 or 30 years Not a financially responsible move. 
 
Our society is primed to consume if people were willing to make do with less it would be good for them and the environment but terrible for the economy.

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he's partly right

By: Murray for Oxley (Registered ) on 23-09-2007 11:22

I think Peter Lindsay is certainly right when he says people these days have higher expectations. We obviously love our space: houses are getting larger and fewer people are living in them.  
 
However, I doubt that's the entire story of housing affordability. I think it's a very complex issue with many different factors affecting it, only some of which are under the government's control. 
 
What is important is that everyone should be able to live in reasonable accommodation reasonably close to family and services.

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Ownership concentration

By: wizofaus (Registered ) on 28-09-2007 05:31

The reality is for most people trying to enter the housing market, the money you might save using milk-crates instead of furniture is not going help much saving up a deposit to make even a $300000 house affordable on an average income. I'm afraid the only logical explanation for house-prices consistently outstripping the affordability of many buyers is that housing ownership is increasingly concentrated in the hands of the those who can afford to buy multiple properties. Hence realistically, if the ideal is for the average young Australian family to own their own home, we need policies that make buying and owning investment properties much less attractive and profitable. But trying selling that to the electorate.

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Interest(ing)?

By: Lorraine (Registered ) on 15-10-2007 02:21

I married in the early sixties and found it hard to save for a house and even harder to get a loan. Interest rates at that time were around 4.5%. You were expected to have a very large deposit and a very good employment record. Women's wages were not taken into consideration it was all based on the "wage earner's" employment, read that as 'man of the house'. During the early 90's when my children wanted to buy a house they had many more options even though interest rates were at about 17% but both wages were considred. 17% on $160,000 for an inner city three bedroom terrace was still affordable. Try to buy that same property now at close to a $million at 8% interest. Take it that wages/salaries may have doubled in that time the affordability is still for a house at about half the cost as everything else has gone up and now includes GST. The pressure is also on to have more and more. At least when we were young it was not a crime to struggle, to wait, to save, to do without. The media pressure, the availability of credit, the have it all now mentality, for tomorrow we may be doomed, pervades young people's psyche. I feel desperately sorry for them. We may have had it hard but at least we could see things would get better. I'm not so sure that it it is as clear today.

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Affordability

By: kevarms (Registered ) on 15-10-2007 15:27

Housing affordability is dependent on two factors .... size and demand for housing. 
 
Unfortunately you can't fit a huge plasma TV in a normal living room .... so we now have entertainment rooms ! The size of the aerage house has doubled over the last 20 years, whilst the land it sits on has halved ! 
 
Demand is dependent on household formation - its true that more of us are living single alone or in smaller households - thereby increasing the demand (regardless of popuolation increases which have slowed). 
 
RETHINK - expect less, live more simply ... and SHARE !

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